How to speak cat, GPS tracking og pelsfarve vs adfærd

Jeg ved ikke om I kan læse artiklen hvis I ikke har Nat.Geo. abn, men nu prøver jeg

Ikke meget nyt og revolutionerende men en fin lille video om GPS tracking som der pt bliver lavet forsøg på i Virginia.
Jeg ledte efter den gamle GPS tråd, men intet kom frem når jeg søgte, derfor denne nye tråd.
Dette må gerne flyttes over i den tråd hvis der er nogen i admin der kan søge den frem.

Den nye bog er “how to speak cat” og er en børnebog https://shop.nationalgeographic.com/product/books/kids-books/animals-and-nature/how-to-speak-cat måske en hyggelig måde at læse engelsk med sine børn :slight_smile:

En ting i artiklen som jeg undrede mig over var kommentaren om “pelsfarve og adfærd”, det har jeg ikke hørt skulle hænge sammen?
“For example, tortoiseshell cats, torties, can be independent and they usually like just one person, and they can be pushy about what they want. Torties and calicos and Abyssinians all have strong documented links between their coat color and personalities”.
Min calico (sort tortie med hvid hedder calico i usa) som var en huskat med noget maine coon blandet i, var meget pushy og havde cattitude for 5 :tihi: men at det skulle hænge sammen med at hun var calico var jeg så ikke klar over. Jeg troede mere det var pga. hun var enebarn og i den grad forkælet (gennemgående tema med mine katte, altså forkælet).

Er der nogle her der har hørt noget lignende med pelsfarve og adfærd?
Har det noget på sig.

Det passer altså meget godt på begge mine (tortie og aby) :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=HolmeInc;1289544]
En ting i artiklen som jeg undrede mig over var kommentaren om “pelsfarve og adfærd”, det har jeg ikke hørt skulle hænge sammen?
“For example, tortoiseshell cats, torties, can be independent and they usually like just one person, and they can be pushy about what they want. Torties and calicos and Abyssinians all have strong documented links between their coat color and personalities”.[/QUOTE]

Her er absolut seneste og mest spritny forskning omkring farver og temperament - jeg noterer tørt at Bimser åbenbart ikke er de mest trænbare… (no shit, sherlock!?)
VH
Susanne

What does behavior have to do with breed, coat type, or eye color?
Posted: 15 Jul 2016 07:15 AM PDT
Wilhelmy J, Serpell J, Brown D, Siracusa C. Behavioral associations with breed, coat type, and eye color in single-breed cats. [I]J Vet Behav… [/I]May-June, 2016; 13: 80-87.

Is there an association between breed and behavior, as well as between appearance and behavior? This has been studied in dogs and also horses, but what about cats?
What are the perceptions different groups of people have on this question of behavioral differences between breeds. This article describes cat show judges characterizing Siamese as demanding of attention and outgoing with strangers, while saying Russian Blues are shy and withdrawn. Veterinarians describe Siamese to be active and vocal, Persians as less active and destructive, and Oriental Shorthairs to be more excitable and destructive. Feline veterinary practitioners are stated to characterize Bengals as most active, most likely to be aggressive toward human family members, and most likely to urine mark out of 15 common breeds; Persians are felt to be the least active and least likely to use a litter box. Are these perceptions accurate?
In this study, the authors hypothesized that behavioral characteristics were associated with breed, eye color, coat color, and coat pattern. Owners of 574 single-breed, registered cats were surveyed with a standardized behavioral profile questionnaire incorporating 20 factors.
The cats were screened for evidence of fear-related aggression, territorial aggression and inappropriate social skills, fear of noises, redirected aggression, separation anxiety, and inappropriate elimination. The breeds evaluated included Abyssinians, Bengals, Birmans, Burmese, Devon Rexes, Maine Coons, Norwegian Forest cats, Orientals, Persians, Ragdolls, Siamese, and Tonkinese. The coat colors included agouti, black, brown, cinnamon, blue, lilac, fawn, caramel, taupe, red, cream, blue cream, apricot, and white. Other phenotypic variants evaluated were associated with albinism, tabbie and tortoiseshell patterning, inhibition of melanin, production of pheomelanin, and white spotting.
Some of the association results noted between a breed and behavior were:
Abyssinians had higher scores for sociability with people and cat aggression while also having decreased scores for restraint resistance and vocalization along with a likelihood of fear of noises.
Birmans had decreased scores for activity/playfulness, vocalization, trainability, and predatory behavior, yet were more likely to exhibit fear-related aggression toward familiar people and also inappropriate elimination.
Maine Coons had increased scores for owner-directed aggression and prey interest while scores for attention seeking, separation-related behavior and sleeping in elevated/warm/hidden locations were decreased. Separation anxiety and inappropriate elimination were also less likely to occur in Maine Coons.
Tonkinese cats had increased scores for playfulness, sociability with people, vocalization, attention seeking, separation-related behavior, and trainability while decreased scores for owner-directed behavior, restraint resistance, and cat aggression. They were also less likely to manifest fear-related aggression toward familiar cats.
When it comes to associations between appearance and behavior, there were some associations noted. Lilac-coated cats demonstrated decreased scores for pretty interest but increased scores for playfulness, attention seeking and separation-related behavior. Ah, the red-coated cats were more likely to exhibit fear-related aggression toward unfamiliar people (this was found to be independent of breed) and also had increased scores for prey interest. Piebald appearance was associated with creased vocalization and stranger-directed aggression. Tortoiseshell coat pattern had increased scores for cat aggression and prey interest but decreased aggression to dogs. However, when all the analysis was said and done, nearly all associations between behavior and coat type were attributable to breed.
In the study’s final results, their hypothesis that associations between appearance and behavior would occur independent of breed was overall unsubstantiated. Most association between behavior and physical appearance could be attributed to breed-based behavior differences. (VLT)

[QUOTE=HolmeInc;1289544]
En ting i artiklen som jeg undrede mig over var kommentaren om “pelsfarve og adfærd”, det har jeg ikke hørt skulle hænge sammen?
“For example, tortoiseshell cats, torties, can be independent and they usually like just one person, and they can be pushy about what they want. Torties and calicos and Abyssinians all have strong documented links between their coat color and personalities”.[/QUOTE]

Her er absolut seneste og mest spritny forskning omkring farver og temperament - jeg noterer tørt at Bimser åbenbart ikke er de mest trænbare… (no shit, sherlock!?)
VH
Susanne

What does behavior have to do with breed, coat type, or eye color?
Posted: 15 Jul 2016 07:15 AM PDT
Wilhelmy J, Serpell J, Brown D, Siracusa C. Behavioral associations with breed, coat type, and eye color in single-breed cats. [I]J Vet Behav… [/I]May-June, 2016; 13: 80-87.

Is there an association between breed and behavior, as well as between appearance and behavior? This has been studied in dogs and also horses, but what about cats?
What are the perceptions different groups of people have on this question of behavioral differences between breeds. This article describes cat show judges characterizing Siamese as demanding of attention and outgoing with strangers, while saying Russian Blues are shy and withdrawn. Veterinarians describe Siamese to be active and vocal, Persians as less active and destructive, and Oriental Shorthairs to be more excitable and destructive. Feline veterinary practitioners are stated to characterize Bengals as most active, most likely to be aggressive toward human family members, and most likely to urine mark out of 15 common breeds; Persians are felt to be the least active and least likely to use a litter box. Are these perceptions accurate?
In this study, the authors hypothesized that behavioral characteristics were associated with breed, eye color, coat color, and coat pattern. Owners of 574 single-breed, registered cats were surveyed with a standardized behavioral profile questionnaire incorporating 20 factors.
The cats were screened for evidence of fear-related aggression, territorial aggression and inappropriate social skills, fear of noises, redirected aggression, separation anxiety, and inappropriate elimination. The breeds evaluated included Abyssinians, Bengals, Birmans, Burmese, Devon Rexes, Maine Coons, Norwegian Forest cats, Orientals, Persians, Ragdolls, Siamese, and Tonkinese. The coat colors included agouti, black, brown, cinnamon, blue, lilac, fawn, caramel, taupe, red, cream, blue cream, apricot, and white. Other phenotypic variants evaluated were associated with albinism, tabbie and tortoiseshell patterning, inhibition of melanin, production of pheomelanin, and white spotting.
Some of the association results noted between a breed and behavior were:
Abyssinians had higher scores for sociability with people and cat aggression while also having decreased scores for restraint resistance and vocalization along with a likelihood of fear of noises.
Birmans had decreased scores for activity/playfulness, vocalization, trainability, and predatory behavior, yet were more likely to exhibit fear-related aggression toward familiar people and also inappropriate elimination.
Maine Coons had increased scores for owner-directed aggression and prey interest while scores for attention seeking, separation-related behavior and sleeping in elevated/warm/hidden locations were decreased. Separation anxiety and inappropriate elimination were also less likely to occur in Maine Coons.
Tonkinese cats had increased scores for playfulness, sociability with people, vocalization, attention seeking, separation-related behavior, and trainability while decreased scores for owner-directed behavior, restraint resistance, and cat aggression. They were also less likely to manifest fear-related aggression toward familiar cats.
When it comes to associations between appearance and behavior, there were some associations noted. Lilac-coated cats demonstrated decreased scores for pretty interest but increased scores for playfulness, attention seeking and separation-related behavior. Ah, the red-coated cats were more likely to exhibit fear-related aggression toward unfamiliar people (this was found to be independent of breed) and also had increased scores for prey interest. Piebald appearance was associated with creased vocalization and stranger-directed aggression. Tortoiseshell coat pattern had increased scores for cat aggression and prey interest but decreased aggression to dogs. However, when all the analysis was said and done, nearly all associations between behavior and coat type were attributable to breed.
In the study’s final results, their hypothesis that associations between appearance and behavior would occur independent of breed was overall unsubstantiated. Most association between behavior and physical appearance could be attributed to breed-based behavior differences. (VLT)

Lidt ærgerligt at de “kun” havde 574 individer med og ikke tog 1000 således “almindelig statistik støj” var elimineret. Men med det sagt, så er 574 individer jo også en ganske pæn population at undersøge. Men konklusionen er jo så også at det er race mere end farve (no pun intended!!) som afgør adfærd.

@Susanne - har du tænkt over hvorfor du har bimser som jo så ikke er så “trænbare” og Europeer som jo også kommer “med egen vilje” :høhø:

Lidt ærgerligt at de “kun” havde 574 individer med og ikke tog 1000 således “almindelig statistik støj” var elimineret. Men med det sagt, så er 574 individer jo også en ganske pæn population at undersøge. Men konklusionen er jo så også at det er race mere end farve (no pun intended!!) som afgør adfærd.

@Susanne - har du tænkt over hvorfor du har bimser som jo så ikke er så “trænbare” og Europeer som jo også kommer “med egen vilje” :høhø:

Interestingly, nearly all associations between behavior and coat type could be attributed to breed-based behavior differences. Associations independent of breed included increased cat aggression in agouti cats and prey interest in red cats, decreased stranger-directed aggression in piebald cats, and increased likelihood of separation anxiety in Siamese and Tonkinese patterned cats.

Er der mon lavet nogle studier af, hvordan separationsangst manifesterer sig og forebygges hos katte? Florian er jo himalayamasket. :trøste:

De får da nogle data ind; men der er nogle problemer med spørgeskemaer som eneste forskningsmetode i denne sammenhæng:

  1. Hvordan får man filtret virkeligheden ud af ejernes forventninger eller fordomme?

  2. Hvordan forklarer man virkningsmekanismen, der skal få et enkelt farvepåvirkende gen til også at påvirke adfærden?

vh

Andreas

LOL! I virkeligheden er jeg nu ikke helt enig i alle deres resultater:

Birmans had decreased scores for activity/playfulness, vocalization, trainability, and predatory behavior, yet were more likely to exhibit fear-related aggression toward familiar people and also inappropriate elimination.”

[FONT=verdana]Mine bimser er ganske legesyge, hele livet. De snakker ganske rigtigt ikke så meget, og jagtinstinktet er ikke lige udpræget hos alle (hvis jeg tilbyder råt kød er der markant forskel på interessen fra “publikum” alt efter om vi taler bimesr eller europeer!) Fear-related agression? Ingen anelse om hvad de snakker om, mine bimser er gennemgående ret nervefaste, men det ved jeg godt at langt fra alle er - her er det imidlertid på listen over kriterier for at få lov til at gå i avl, og det er måske det jeg ser resultatet af. Inappropriate elimination? Don´t get me started! En utilfreds bimse tisser på ting…! Helt stensikkert! Og så det med trænbarheden. Well… nogle af dem kan i hvert fald lære lidt af hvert, I give you exhibit A:

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Det kan i hvert fald ikke alle racer lære! Og heller ikke alle bimser, indrømmet :wink:
VH
Susanne

Hatten af 100% til i hvert fald den ene bimse - det er imponerende! :thumbup:

Helios var også unik og ganske enestående på mange områder! :hjerte:

[QUOTE=Andreas;1289559]De får da nogle data ind; men der er nogle problemer med spørgeskemaer som eneste forskningsmetode i denne sammenhæng:

  1. Hvordan får man filtret virkeligheden ud af ejernes forventninger eller fordomme?

  2. Hvordan forklarer man virkningsmekanismen, der skal få et enkelt farvepåvirkende gen til også at påvirke adfærden?

vh

Andreas[/QUOTE]
Ja, især punkt 2 har også undret mig.