Valentines

Fejre / holder du Valentines day / Valentins dag?

Jeg gjorde måske hvis jeg havde en kæreste. Så ville vi måske være gået i biffen, ikke noget stort.

Nu hvor jeg ikke har en kæreste kan jeg læne mig tilbage og grine og sige det er noget kommercielt pjat.

DERFOR! En ven kommer over ved en 16-tiden. så står den på indtag af den usundeste grillmad vi kan finde, og de mest skræmmende og blodfyldte gysere ever!

“My bloody valentine” er naturligvis et must! :tihi:

næh det gør vi ikke… og jeg holder heller ikke 4. july…eller halloween

Nej det gør vi ikke :slight_smile:

Nææh det gør vi ikke. Vi hygger os, som vi plejer at gøre om søndagen :slight_smile:

Næh…jeg synes, at det er noget opreklameret fis. :muhaha:

Nope… Det er noget der er kommet så div forretninger osv, kan tjene penge

Rent faktisk er der en oldgammel Romersk tragi-romantisk historie og en masse legender med dertilhørende traditioner bag Valentine’s Day (som så siden er gået i glemmebogen) Legends of Valentine's Day - Stvalentinesday.org

Feast of Lupercalia
Several historians trace the origin of Valentine’s Day to pagan times in ancient Roman Empire. In those times, people organized a holiday on February 14 to honor Juno - the mythological Queen of Roman Gods and Goddesses. The Romans also regarded Juno as the Goddess of Women and Marriage. From the following day - February 15 started the Fertility Festival called the Feast of Lupercalia. This feast was organized to protect humans from wolves and to honor the Roman Gods of Agriculture - Lupercus and Faunus besides the founders of Rome - Romulus and Remus. During the Feast of Lupecalia, members of Lupercali - an order of the Roman priest used to gather in a sacred cave where Romulus and Remus were believed to have been cared for by a she-wolf or lupa. Following the tradition, the priest would sacrifice a goat for fertility and a dog for purification. Boys would slice the goats hide into strips, dipped them in sacrificial blood and move about the streets gently slapping women and fields with the animal hide. Womenfolk gladly received a slap, as they believed that the practice would make them more fertile. Later, during the Feast of Lupecalia, all the young women in the city would place a chit of their name in a big urn. Bachelors in the city would each then take a chit out of the urn and became paired for the girl whose name was on the chit for the rest of the year. Quite often, the paired couple would fall in love and marry.

Later, when Christianity spread through Rome, the practice of finding mate through ‘lottery’ was deemed un-Christian and outlawed. Around 498 AD, Pope Gelasius is said to have declared February 14 St. Valentine’s Day. Some writers link Valentine’s Day with Feast of Lupercalia because of similar date and connection with fertility.

Legends of Saint Valentine
Early Christian Church indicates the presence of at least two saints names Valentine. Some scholars however, says that there were as many as seven saints credited with the name of Saint Valentine or Valentinus all of whom lived in the Third Century and apparently died on the same day. Given here are some of the most popular of all legends of Saint Valentine:

Saint Valentine of Rome - I
According to one very popular legend, Valentine was a priest in Rome who lived during the reign of Emperor Claudius II. Under his regime, Claudius is said to have engaged Rome into several bloody battles. To strengthen his army, the Emperor continuously needed to recruit soldiers. However, Claudius found that not many soldiers were keen to join the army because of attachment with their wives and families. In order to sever the bond of attachment, Claudius cancelled all marriages and engagements in Rome. Valentine - a romantic at heart priest, defied this callous decree of Claudius by secretly arranging marriages of young men and women. When Valentine’s defiance was discovered by the Emperor, he was brutally beaten up and put to death on February 14, about 270 AD.

For his martyrdom and dedication for the cause Valentine was name a Saint after his death. By Middle Ages, Saint Valentine became popular as the patron saint of love and lovers in England and France to the extent that Pope Gelasius declared February 14 as Valentine’s Day on 498 AD and put an end to pagan celebrations. Thus, Saint Valentine’s martyrdom day became an occasion to celebrate love.

Saint Valentine of Rome - II
Another famous legend on Saint Valentine states Valentine was an early Christian in Rome who was very popular amongst children. But during the time when Valentine lived, Roman regime was not in favour of Christianity and it even persecuted Christians to make Rome free of the followers of Christianity. In spite of this strict law, Valentine continued to practice his faith and refused to worship Roman Gods. This enraged Emperor Claudius II and he put Valentine into prison.

Valentine is said to have spent a year in rigorous imprisonment during which he was missed a lot by children. They began to toss loving notes and flowers between the bars of his cell window. To an extent, this legend may explain the tradition of exchanging notes and flowers on Valentine’s Day.

Some scholars believe that during his stay in prison Valentine made friends with jailer’s blind daughter who at times brought to him notes and flowers from children. Whenever, possible Valentine also replied to the notes. Days before his execution, Valentine prayed for the jailer’s daughter and she regained her sight. Before his death, Valentine is also said to have written a farewell note for the jailer’s daughter and signed it "From Your Valentine”. This expression is popular even till date.

Some scholars believe that Valentine was killed because he tried to help Christians escape from the Roman prison as they were being tortured and beaten. Yet another set of scholars say Emperor Claudius II was impressed by Valentine’s kindness and good behavior. He even stated that Valentine could be freed if he agreed to worship Roman Gods. Valentine not just refused he even tried to convert Emperor to Christianity. This made Claudius very angry and he ordered his execution. Valentine was beheaded on February 14.

Birds Mating Time
During the Middle Ages, people in England and France held a popular belief that birds started to look for a mate from February 14. This popular notion further strengthened the idea that Valentine’s Day festival that falls in the middle of February should be celebrated as the day of love and romance. The concept soon gained ground amongst the lovers and they began to celebrate the day by exchanging love notes and simple gifts like flower.

Tak, Camilla :slight_smile: Jeg lavede en hulans masse research på Valentinsdag for meget længe siden, hvor jeg var lun på en islandsk filosofistuderende (glem filosofistuderende: Fyre, der for alvor tror, at de kan læse sig til væren-i-verden er tabt for samme).
Men hele den romerske del fandt jeg ikke.
Derimod har Ofelia nogle Valentins-vers blandt sine drukne-replikker (!), som altså mindst er fra anno 1600.
Der er berømte europæiske digtere tilbage til år 1000 (Otho de Grandson - og nej, jeg havde heller ikke hørt om ham før), som har digtet om Valentinsdagen.
God, gammel europæisk tradition altså, men længst gået i glemmebogen her.
Nu lever traditionen i USA - måske bragt derover tilbage i Pilgrims/Mayflower tiden, eller af Lafayette og Talleyrands folk - men ikke mere her.
Vi har også engang fejret maj med at danse om majstangen (det gør man vist også stadig sine steder i USA) og kåre majdronning og gadebasse. Svenskerne har noget i den dur ved midsommertide.
Hvordan danskerne har droppet så mange af de ældste, før-kristne skikke, ved jeg ikke. Pga protestantismen :? og dens foragt for pomp og pragt :?

Jamen jeg fejrer Valentinsdag hver dag - med ham her :høhø:

her bliver der ikke gjort noget som helst ud af den valentins-dag, det er det mest opblæste man ka forestille sig og kun lavet af commercielle(staves) årsager.

-LOL-LOL-LOL-LOL

Og jeg ser frem til, at hans far, verdens mest kælne skødekat, flytter ind her - eller var han far til din missepige :? :ups:
De ligner ialtfald hinanden, de 2 sorte :tihi:

Og jeg ser frem til, at hans far, verdens mest kælne skødekat, flytter ind her - eller var han far til din missepige :? :ups:
De ligner ialtfald hinanden, de 2 sorte :tihi:

[quote=MiSi;336326]Og jeg ser frem til, at hans far, verdens mest kælne skødekat, flytter ind her - eller var han far til din missepige :? :ups:
De ligner ialtfald hinanden, de 2 sorte :tihi:
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Ja, Milo er far til Coco :slight_smile: Men du har ret, de ligner hinanden de sorte slyngler :høhø:

[quote=MiSi;336307]
Hvordan danskerne har droppet så mange af de ældste, før-kristne skikke, ved jeg ikke. Pga protestantismen :? og dens foragt for pomp og pragt :?[/quote]

Mht Valentines Day ganske enkelt fordi der i Danmark/Norden ikke har eksisteret en tilsvarende tradition i før-kristen tid :slight_smile:
Godt nok havde vores vikingeforfædre kontakt til både Rom og Konstantinopel, men de praktiserede deres egen Asetro i disse lande…
OG mindst lige så væsentligt… Danmark/Norden har aldrig været indlemmet i Romerriget! Dvs at Romernes religøse fester og traditioner ikke blev en del af dansk/nordisk hverdagsliv på samme måde som de fx blev i Brittania, Frankrig eller andre Europæiske stater…
Dvs at da kristendommen blev fremherskende religion i Danmark/Norden “savnede” man ikke en fest for kærligheden… kærligheden var ikke en del af den asetro man hidtil havde bekendt sig til - den havde andre værdier… Så der var ingen grund til at tage en “Fejring af Kærligheden og unge elskende” til sig…
Jeg tror faktisk at rigtig mange nyomvendte danske/nordiske vikinger ville opfatte den slags som en værre omgang tandløst BAVL!!! :smiley:
(Husk at Jesus i de tidligste nordiske fremstillinger ikke er den kærlige tilgivende, men feltherren den sejrende… det kunne vores forfædre forstå og relatere sig til… ikke en gang ævl om tilgivelse, synd og kærlighed :tihi: )

For at komme tilbage til spørgsmålet…
Nej, vi fejrer ikke Valentines Day herhjemme… det er en tradition fra de engelsksprogede lande/kolonier ligesom Halloween.

Nej,vi fejrer ikke Valentines.

Til gengæld skal vi i eftermiddag spise de største og lækreste
fastelavnsboller sammen med min veninde og hendes familie - og uden
udklædning :slight_smile:

Nej, her hjemme bliver det ikke fejret. Jeg hader sådan noget og min kæreste kom engang hjem med en blomst til mig, og svaret han fik var: “Du skal ikke bruge penge på sådan noget pjat!” Nok ikke så sødt, men ´jeg kan bare ikke med de der opdigtede dage her i DK. Vi har da egne traditioner som også er rigtig gode.

Ja, da!!

Mit spisebord er fyldt med computere, etc. og bag hver sidder en jævnligt højtråbende mand med ørebøffer på… :fløjte:

[quote=Bølle-missen;336341]Ja, da!!

Mit spisebord er fyldt med computere, etc. og bag hver sidder en jævnligt højtråbende mand med ørebøffer på… :fløjte:[/quote]

:forelsket: aiiihhh, hvor romantisk :hjerte: :tihi:

ENIG…ENIG…
Sådan noget amerikaner-fis…:frowning:

Jeg kan slet ikke ha’ det.